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Shakesville: Save Me from Myself, Skinny Jesus Chef! A takedown of the sizism and classism in Jamie Oliver's crusade to save Americans from bad food and being fat.

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insaint
Apr. 12th, 2010 08:39 pm (UTC)
I didn't know it was possible to knee-jerk that much, even on the internets.
kettunainen
Apr. 12th, 2010 10:26 pm (UTC)
who's knee is jerking? yours? the Shakesville author? *confused*
insaint
Apr. 12th, 2010 10:34 pm (UTC)
The author, in my opinion.
the_nita
Apr. 12th, 2010 10:51 pm (UTC)
That makes two of us. Unfortunately, I can't read Shakesville for an overwhelming reaction of that far too often.
crystal_diva
Apr. 13th, 2010 12:42 am (UTC)
Frankly, this new movement of demonizing anyone who says "fat is bad and ultimately unhealthy" gets on my nerves. While I am sure it is somehow possible to be overweight and still fit and healthy, I personally believe it's the exception rather than the rule. YMMV, especially since my opinion in this particular area is wildly unpopular.
the_nita
Apr. 13th, 2010 12:48 am (UTC)
I'm overweight. I'm reasonably healthy. I don't feel offended or put upon when someone says that I would live longer and likely better if I lost weight. I also don't feel a burning need to do what the rest of the world tells me each time. What does bug me about this particular issue is the polarity of the assumption. Either you're a horrible meanie who thinks fat people are evil or you know that fat is good and great and no one should be a hater.

Ugh. I can't be bothered.
olletho
Apr. 13th, 2010 01:17 am (UTC)
For years I have been baffled by a tendency in American culture (and I do see it more strongly across the boarder, but we're no angels) to fall into polerizations. Either you are A or C, if you are not C then clearly you must be A.... and the more the issue (what ever it is) is talked about the less and less the idea that B might even exist seems to cross the mind of the masses.
dendritejungle
Apr. 13th, 2010 09:46 pm (UTC)
THIS.

You don't agree with the treatments of Palestinians? You're an ANTI-SEMITE! You don't support a specific war? You not only don't SUPPORT OUR TROOPS but are ANTI-AMERICAN!

*headdesk*
kettunainen
Apr. 12th, 2010 11:13 pm (UTC)
I agree, as well.
kettunainen
Apr. 12th, 2010 11:29 pm (UTC)
which isn't to say that there aren't problems with the show/clip of the show. Yes, there is fat-shaming. But he's not talking about people who eat healthy and exercise AND who are still overweight/fat. He's talking about people who don't understand that a diet of pure processed foods will kill you -- people who are overweight BECAUSE of those processed foods.

Yes, there's more to it than just learning how to make better food choices -- there's time involved in making the food and not everyone has that time. But why isn't that mother of four (it's four, right?) getting her kids to help prepare food? It's not like they're all under the age of 7. Even then, a 5yo should be capable of chopping a carrot/cucumber to eat with some hummus. Or even putting some beans in some water to soak.

I've read a few really good posts from Shakesville. I don't consider this to be one of them.
uniquecrash5
Apr. 13th, 2010 02:58 pm (UTC)
I don't remember where I saw the clip (the Daily Show maybe?), but I watched an excerpt of Jamie Oliver doing that same thing he did with British kids, where he shows exactly what goes in to chicken nuggets, to American kids.

The British kids were totally grossed out, and agreed they wouldn't be eating chicken nuggets anymore.

The American kids were totally grossed out, and all said they would continue to eat chicken nuggets. Jamie Oliver's stunned reaction was priceless.
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